Your Debut: an interview series with working moms

Introducing…

Name: Gabriela Gonzalez 

Company and position: Director, Government Affairs at TELUS  

Age of kids:  1 year & 6 years

Q: At The Debut Co, we acknowledge the importance of the Motherhood Identity Shift. What has this evolution looked like for you?   

A: I had my second child less than a year ago so I feel like I’m going through Motherhood Identity Shift 2.0. Oftentimes, when you’re in the thick of motherhood and working, it’s hard to see how you’re evolving. 

One thing I’ve learned is that with two kids it’s impossible to maintain the same standards that you had before kids. I’ve realized I don’t have to lower my standards, but shift to a mentality that ‘done is better than perfect’. Motherhood has helped me let go of my perfectionist tendencies. Right now, I’m making the most impact I can with the time I have. Knowing that this is a season, albeit a challenging one, helps me prioritize and stay focused. 

Q: What challenges have you faced as a working mother and how have you overcome them?  

A: There is a lot of juggling of various responsibilities – I’m a planner by nature and if something is not in the calendar, then it’s not happening. 

I’m lucky to have incredible flexibility at work and an incredible employer. This strong foundation has set me up for success and I feel like this makes things more manageable. 

Q: What’s practical advice can you share with other working moms to avoid burnout, and to balance work and home life?  

A: I’ve had to accept that this phase of life (raising young kids + climbing the corporate ladder + being on nonprofit boards) is HARD. I’m trying to give myself permission to slow down when my schedule allows me so I can avoid burning out. 

My weekends used to be jammed packed with activities but now that I’m back at work, I’m looking forward to slower weekends when we are not rushing from one thing to the next. Being able to slow down, catch my breath and let the kids have free play. Trying to live by the wise words of “Grace, not perfection”. 

Outsource and simplify: whenever possible, hire help (ex. cleaners, order grocery delivery, meal kits). I recognize I am in a privileged position to be able to pay for external help and not everyone has the same access. 

Laugh a lot. Be light hearted and try to roll with the punches! 

Testimonial 

“The Debut Co. program provided the support I needed during the transformational period of being on parental leave and preparing to return to work. It helped me soften some of my perfectionist traits, while empowering me to feel like the leader that I am at work.  

The program also helped me confidently navigate discussions at work when I was offered a promotion while on parental leave.   

I’m glad I took part in the program and highly recommend it to other career-driven moms. Erin and Saphina are excellent coaches and I loved working with them.”

Your Debut: an interview series with working moms

Introducing…

Name: Julia Rose

Company and position: Canadian Tire Corp., Brand Communications Manager

Age of child: 10 months (1 year on August 25, 2024)

Q: At The Debut Co, we acknowledge the importance of the Motherhood Identity Shift – how we change as we move from working woman, to mother and then working mother. What has this evolution looked like for you?

A: Looking back to the time before I became a mother, it’s easy to see just how blissfully unaware I was of the demands and invisible labour that comes with motherhood. I knew becoming a mom would come with a shift — a new skill set to learn, growing list of things to do and competing priorities but I didn’t fully comprehend the what and the how it would change my life personally and professionally.  

      I see life differently now. My priorities have shifted. My values have evolved. I have new boundaries. Because of this experience, I not only feel confident that I will bring my best self to my upcoming role as working mother but that I will also, and should, celebrate all the ways motherhood has changed me for the better.  

        Q: What challenges have you faced as a new mom and how have you overcome them?   

        A: Throughout my life, whether personally or professionally, I’ve always been a confident person, but not necessarily a patient one. I’ve had drive, a clear vision of what I wanted, and the confidence to get it all done.  

          When I became a mother, that all changed. I felt unsure of myself. I didn’t have that natural intuition or infectiously positive outlook that I kept seeing on my social feeds. I didn’t recognize myself and that was really hard for me to say out loud and accept. I didn’t want to come across as ungrateful or unhappy. 

          I had to take a moment to grieve my old life while simultaneously learning to be kind and patient with myself in this new life. And I won’t lie, that was and still is hard. But now I have the tools to question the thoughts in my mind and be more aware of “is this fact or is this fiction”. I’m able to cultivate a headspace of progress over perfection in all areas of my life now. 

          Q: What practical advice can you share with other moms to avoid burnout, and to balance work and home life?   

          A: I’ve always believed in the power of community, but this could not be more true when it comes to motherhood. I’ve learned that it feels like a lot for one person, because it was never meant to be for one person. It was meant for a village. Build your village however you can and communicate, communicate, communicate when and how you need support. 

          It’s also been said countless times, but comparison truly is the thief of joy. When you stop scrolling and endlessly researching, you’re able to soak in the everyday magic and take a breather to remind yourself that you are enough and you are doing enough.  

          Connect with us to learn more about our Working Parents Workshop Series

          Celebrating ‘good enough’ this summer

          Juggling kids and work during the summer 

          As summer approaches, we envision days filled with relaxation, adventure, and quality family time. It’s a welcome break from the everyday routines that define the rest of the year.

          But for many parents, summer break can feel more like a frantic juggling act. We’re balancing work responsibilities with having the kids at home or shuttling them to various summer camps with new schedules and different locations each week. 

          The pressure mounts as we navigate societal and family expectations, striving to meet every demand perfectly. It’s easy to feel overwhelmed as we try to manage it all without support. The stress of this juggling act can lead to frustration, feelings of failure, and heavy doses of mom guilt.

          The Perils of Perfectionism

          As Dr. Brené Brown explains in Atlas of the Heart, perfectionism can manifest in various ways, and can lead to comparison and guilt. It can show up in a lot of different ways: from striving for a Pinterest-perfect home to using only organic baby products. In the summer months, we may take on more than we can manage to appear to have it all under control while not asking for help. Fear of judgment, blame and an aversion to criticism can be some of the driving forces behind perfectionist tendencies. 

          This mindset can lead to procrastination, stress, and decreased satisfaction. Despite being a go-to “flaw” in job interviews, perfectionism is no one’s ally.  

          What if it was ‘good enough’?

          Instead of aiming for unattainable perfection, focus on ‘good enough’. Using absolutes like ‘only,’ ‘always,’ and ‘never‘ can set you up for failure. Reflect on why you have these strict rules and see if you can change them. Take some time to address any guilt or stress that comes up.  Bring your awareness to what is working and what you have been able to get done. 

          Consider where you can introduce ‘flexible thinking’ in your approach or expectations. Create a plan for handling sudden changes in schedules or childcare cancellations by discussing with your manager or partner how they can support your schedule where needed. 

          Remember that we are our own worst critic, and you may only get a few things done ‘perfectly’ but you can make things easier on yourself if you practice appreciating your accomplishments. Celebrate the ‘good enough’ and pave the way to a more enjoyable season with your family. 

          Your Debut: an interview series with working moms

          Ask any mom working outside the home, and she will have a story (or several!) to share. In our work at The Debut Co., we’ve seen the impact of sharing those stories in our own community and want to share them more broadly here with you.

          Welcome to the first in our series where we hear from working moms about their personal journeys and learnings navigating their career and family coming out of our program.

          Introducing…  

          Name: Anna Laird  

          Company and position: Hydrogeologist in the Energy Sector 

          Age of kids: 1 & 3 

          Q: At The Debut Co, we acknowledge the importance of the Motherhood Identity Shift – how we evolve as we take on a new role as working mother. What has this evolution looked like for you?

          A: With my first child, I felt messy and unconventional. It was a different time with the pandemic, and I went on leave right as my company was merging with another major player. I came back to an entirely new job, strictly virtual, and had little confidence and structure to work with. 

          I very much had to learn the hard way. The pressure to perform at work, at home and show up for myself was completely overwhelming and really challenged me in ways I was not anticipating. 

          This experience empowered me to make sure it would be different for my next baby. I am optimistic it will be different this time around, as the circumstances are much different and I have learned so much about myself and what I need, and what I am capable of taking on. 

          Q: What challenges have you faced as a working mother and how have you overcome them?   

          A: Not having any family close by to help has been really challenging. It’s difficult to juggle a young family while trying to grow both parents’ careers. As a result, it has been imperative to share the childbearing and household load. It’s not even all the time, but to understand it will ebb and flow and to have open communication with your partner about expectations has been crucial to avoiding burnout and resentment. 

          Feelings of loneliness, isolation and burnout have been common. My whole identity changed and I had to grieve my old life – not only personally but professionally. It was definitely a time I needed to give myself grace but when that was not my default programming, it took me a long time to let go of these unrealistic standards for myself.  I had to check my expectations and learn to give myself some compassion (which does not come naturally to me – I am a work in progress).  

          I also joined my company’s women’s network and that really turned around my experience at work, not only to feel seen and heard from other working parents, but it also provided an opportunity for me to advocate for women, specifically women in STEM roles, which I feel so deeply passionate about. 

          Q: What practical advice can you share with other working moms to avoid burnout, and to balance work and home life?   

          A: Regular communication about how things are going and evolving for you with your manager, partner and other support networks are essential. It is a constant evolution being a working mom so if your people know how you are doing physically, emotionally and mentally, they can hopefully support you too. Most importantly, checking in with yourself and your internal dialogue to see where you need to shift some priorities and energy.  

          Being a working mother is a massive lesson in prioritization and learning to let go. The to-do list will truly never end, so you need to be intentional about what is most important. The kitchen doesn’t need to be spotless, let the toys stay on the floor, the scrolling time adds up, etc. 

          Outsource what you can – food boxes, cleaner, grocery delivery, etc. It makes a BIG difference. 

          Connect with us to learn more about our Working Parents Workshop Series

          Calibrating Motherhood and Work  

          Why work-life balance is a myth 

          The concept of work-life balance sounds great in theory, but it’s incredibly hard to pull off. We try to divide our time evenly between work, family, friends, and community, but by the end of the week, we’re exhausted and drained. 

          Think about it: If you’re working 40 to 60 hours a week and spending another 40 to 60 hours on family, community, your partner, and so on, you’ll soon realize there just aren’t enough hours in the week to do everything and still have time for yourself. The math doesn’t add up.

          It’s clear that the idea of work-life balance, suggesting that everything is equally important, doesn’t really match the reality of working parents. And if you’re the default parent, chances are you’re also experiencing parental bias.

          Which means, it’s up to you to define your own strategy to avoid overwhelm. So, what’s the alternative? Consider work-life calibration instead. 

          Calibration over equilibrium 

          Calibration involves adapting to life’s changes by staying true to what matters most to you. Each day, you adjust your decisions to fit the shifting demands and limitations of your situation. Essentially, it’s about making your schedule and goals work for you, not the other way around. 

          How can you calibrate effectively? It all starts with your self-identity – a complex blend of beliefs, attitudes, behaviors, and past experiences that influence your perception of yourself and the world around you. 

          Calibration: Follow your North Star 

          Your self-perception is your North Star for calibrating effectively. If it doesn’t align with your idea of success, calibration can be difficult. To realign, identify and challenge limiting beliefs. Your thoughts influence your feelings which drive your behaviours and shape outcomes.  

          Calibration involves consistently reaffirming and aligning with your goals and values, making it easier to navigate all your competing priorities. You can’t do it all, but you can do what matters most to you – which is everything!

          This International Women’s Day, let’s focus on fathers.

          (yep, you read that right)

          Don’t get us wrong, we love conversations about how we can support women in the workplace and shake up the old systems that hold them back. But sometimes it can feel like we’re talking in circles. This International Women’s Day, we want to highlight another piece of the puzzle: for mothers to be able to lead at work, fathers need to feel like they can step up and take on more responsibilities at home.

          Phrases like the “motherhood penalty” can make women feel like they’re somehow to blame for societal inequalities and that it’s incumbent on us to fix it. But real change requires a shift in how we think and action from all genders. It’s about dismantling harmful stereotypes and creating environments where both men, women and non-binary parents are empowered to thrive, both at work and at home. It’s a no-brainer. To create the equality we want to see, we’ve got to challenge traditional gender roles that have been holding us all back for way too long. We recognize that there are positive shifts in the workplace that are paving the way for a more equitable future. Paternity leave, top-ups, and flexible work options are instrumental to supporting both men and women.

          Despite the good intentions behind workplace policies that promote gender equity, the data still shows a massive gap. It will still take 100 years to achieve equity in the workplace (World Economic Forum). A big part of the problem is that people aren’t taking full advantage of these policies particularly paternity leave, like they should.

          Why? It comes down to gender norms from decades gone by that are still hanging around. Paternity leave and flexible work options are there for the taking, but many men still feel pressure to keep their noses to the grindstone instead of taking time for family. Only 24% of men in Canada believe it’s their job to take paternity leave (IPSOS 2019). For women, they might hold back from using support systems because they’re worried about being judged for not fitting into traditional roles.

          The policies are there, but people just don’t feel like they can or should make use of them. This disconnect shows us that equity in the workplace is not just about having the right policies in place: we’ve also got to shake things up, challenge stereotypical gender norms and redefine the roles that men and women play both at home and at work.

          As we celebrate International Women’s Day, let’s keep pushing for progress together. Let’s invite fathers into the conversation and keep chipping away at those old stereotypes and creating a world where everyone, regardless of gender, has the chance to thrive, now and in the future.

          Curious about how to better support working parents? Check out our workshop and leadership programs and book a call to learn more.

          No One is Talking About The Motherhood Identity Shift™

          When it comes to having a baby, we’re typically in one-sided conversations.

          We talk about what size fruit the baby is in the womb and the brackets of age they’ll be in for clothes as they grow. We celebrate their arrival with baby shower cupcakes and rituals and take pictures as they develop teeth, dimples and rolls. We watch their neonatal acne come and go, their hair poke through in patches and light up when smiles consciously appear in reaction to our cooing voice. We notice their every change and the world comments on their evolution right alongside us.

          But we miss something major, something essential and something right in front of us.

          Ourselves.

          When a child is born, so are we!

          We are now mothers.

          Two births have happened, yet our culture’s eye is trained to only acknowledge and see one as the big event.

          We’re the vehicle that simply “bounces back” to its previous iteration and goes on ticking, as if creating a child was a physical act that didn’t travel to the mind, the heart or the soul of ourselves. It leaves us to navigate our way through an unspoken falsehood that we as individuals are unaffected, only added onto.

          Yet, while we wrestle with a rapidly shifting physical self, we’re also sifting through an entirely new psychological, mental, emotional and spiritual state nobody talks about. We’re led to believe we can just pick up where we left off as who we were before – go back to ‘normal’, when in fact, we have been reborn ourselves.

          We call it The Motherhood Identity Shift™

          Becoming a mother is one of the biggest internal transitions you can go through, and it requires graciously letting go of your past identity to step into your new one. It takes the understanding that when one version of you ends, you might be in the neutral zone, on the bridge between, before you feel fully like the new you.

          So, take some time to acknowledge and grieve who you were before, to embody this transition at the pace and style that feels truest to you, and when you feel ready, to step forward.

          Breathe easy knowing you’re meant to change, but it can feel so much easier when there’s a name for it.

          You can learn more about this shift on here, but we want to take it one step further.

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          Why More Time Off Isn’t the Answer

          Mothers have always needed more than paid time off, but never have the numbers made it so glaringly obvious.

          28%

          Greater chance that working mothers will experience burnout than working fathers.


          Maven, Parents at the Best Workplaces

          43%

          Moms dropping out of the workforce within one year of having a baby.


          Maven, Parents at the Best Workplaces

          Our workplaces have evolved from where they’ve been in the past, but the present model is still lacking.

          We’re still beating the benefits drum of more paid time off as though it’s the singular solution – and, yes, it helps – but it can also exacerbate the problem of feeling removed and isolated from the culture and community inherent in our professional lives.

          Taking mothers out of the picture for longer doesn’t necessarily solve the problem.

          Ultimately, it asks what’s outside to solve what’s inside as if we’re saying,

          “With more time off, they’ll come back rested and ready.”

          “With more time off, they’ll be able to get a handle on things at home.”

          “With more time off, they’ll heal and deal and come back prepared.”

          But that’s not how it works.

          Benefits need to be holistic, not just reflective of the physical support for birth and childcare.

          They need to take in every dimension of the whole human being, including their mental, social, intellectual and environmental health.

          We do this by supporting you through The Motherhood Identity ShiftTM, an under-researched and unspoken transition every person goes through when they become a mother. And since 86% of women in the workplace become mothers at some point in their careers*, this can’t be ignored.

          You can learn more about this shift on here, but we want to take it one step further.

          BOOK A FREE 30-MINUTE CALL WITH US

          The Debut Co. was created to take whole-person care out of simple theory and into deep practice, so all mothers are completely supported in their jobs, within their teams and by leadership. This starts with the tools and training to evolve past paid leave as the only solution to a problem that needs much broader consideration.

          We can all do better and we’re here to help you get there.

          *Reshma Saujani, author of Pay Up, 2022

          The Invisible Power of Parental Bias

          There isn’t a workplace out there that doesn’t have parental bias, yet no one talks about it.

          It’s so baked in by the time we get to working age that we don’t realize how much we’ve assigned certain roles to gender and unwittingly play a role in our careers, companies and their cultures.

          If you haven’t really thought about it, consider who did what when you were growing up:

          • Who changed the oil in the car and who changed the diapers?
          • Who dropped you off at school and who dropped the credit card on the restaurant check?
          • Who made the meals and who made the money?
          • Who taught you how to get a stain out of clothes and who taught you how to get them dirty?
          • Who gave you a bath and who mowed the lawn?

          Whatever your answers, gender roles play a huge role in how you expect women and men to act in all facets of all your life.

          At work, this influences how you see your bosses and co-workers, new hires, team members – and yourself. And it’s an even bigger challenge because we don’t associate our parental bias as a workplace issue – which means it’s left even more unchecked.

          Parental bias influences how you see everyone, but when was the last time you thought about how that impacts you and others negatively?

          • How does influence you to jump to conclusions or assume a quality or characteristic without question?
          • How does do you perceive another person’s aptitude, focus or commitment to their job?
          • How does it influence the social connections you make, or put more effort into?

          Again, we all have parental bias, and we need to start thinking about how it affects us in the workplace.

          When we become conscious of it, we can counteract it with deep presence, keen awareness and the willingness to disassemble what we often can’t even see.

          It takes being open and gracious with ourselves, as we work toward an equitable lens.

          Moving forward, ask yourself, “How can I get curious about neutralizing parental and gender roles to give everyone a fair shot?” and, most importantly,

          “What would the workplace look like if parental bias didn’t exist?”

          You can learn more about how to do this in your workplace here, but we want to take it one step further.

          BOOK A FREE 30-MINUTE CALL WITH US